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| Author: | Dave [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:17 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | [OLD] Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 | ||
Alright, here's the result of all the bio-statistic threads from the last couple of weeks. This is all-inclusive, any additions will be handled on a case-by-case basis. Let me know if you spot any typos. Edit 2011/11/08: I've updated the ref sheet to include the Vitagon crit and reflect the Brood rule changes from the special rule's breakdown thread.
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| Author: | zombocom [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
Meiotic spore range should be 30cm. |
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| Author: | Dave [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
When was it changed from 15cm? |
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| Author: | zombocom [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
In leviathan :p They should also have a better CC ability; they're a real menace in 40k, exploding in your face. |
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| Author: | GlynG [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
30cm move seems unusually high for the Scythed Hierodule? Is that a typo? |
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| Author: | Dave [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
It isn't, that's what Zombo wanted to go with. |
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| Author: | zombocom [ Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
Short answer: In 40k they're pretty much the quickest thing there is; quicker than a rhino for example, so if anything it's actually pretty conservative. Long answer: In 40k the Hierodules and 'phant move 12" basic (same as a rhino), then can trade weapon shots for extra movement. Thus a Scythed Hierodule moves a minimum of 12+d6" as it only has one weapon. If it doesn't fire the bio-acid it moves 12+2d6". The Barbed 'dule and 'Phant have these rules too, but due to their heavier weapon loads I figure them less likely to trade shots for extra movement. It also allows the Barbed and Scythed to remain at the same points cost as each other. |
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
It's the same Agility rule as the Warhound and all Eldar Titans have. |
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| Author: | Ulrik [ Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
So Barbed should be 30cm too? |
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| Author: | zombocom [ Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
Potentially, but it'd be worth more than the scythed if that was the case. It should probably go up to 25cm though. |
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| Author: | Garoth [ Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
The DC value of Hierophant Bio-titan (990.M41) doesn't seem to match to either of the 745-type Bio-titan DC values. Was the generally accepted "classic Hierodule = modern Hierophant" naming convention dropped? Are we now supposed to have three diffrent sizes of Bio-titans? |
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| Author: | zombocom [ Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
Given that a name change was inevitable due to the naming issue, and that Dave wanted a different weapon layout, and that the 40k stats for the modern Hierophant suggest higher than DC4, I decided we might as well split them entirely. I don't see it as a problem since they won't be in the same list together. |
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| Author: | Dave [ Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
The "old-stuff" list will use the 745 'dule and 'phant. The "new-stuff" list will use the barbed/scythed 'dule and 990 'phant. I don't think there's going to be a list with all of the versions in it, so proxying the old for the new or vice versa will work. I'd think you'd still only need two sizes of bio-titans. |
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| Author: | Dave [ Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
I've updated the ref sheet to include the Vitagon crit and reflect the Brood rule changes from the special rule's breakdown thread. |
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| Author: | arkturas [ Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tyranid Reference Sheet v10 |
Dave wrote: The "old-stuff" list will use the 745 'dule and 'phant. The "new-stuff" list will use the barbed/scythed 'dule and 990 'phant. I don't think there's going to be a list with all of the versions in it, so proxying the old for the new or vice versa will work. I'd think you'd still only need two sizes of bio-titans. Well the Bio-Titan list may end up using "3" but it would probably be the Barbed/Scythed Hierodules, the 990 Hierophant and an upgrade (+2DC). Model wise it would be the two metal versions (or scratchbuilds) and a gaunt scratchbuild. |
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