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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:10 pm 
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Updated for most recent version of the formula (V0.46)
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Model or Formation name _ V0.46 Cost _ vs 0.43 _ vs Gold

__ Chaos Renegades
Android: ______________ 17.82 ____ -3.24 __ -7.18
Aspiring Champion: ____ 47.95 ____ -9.8 ___ -2.05
Beastmen: _____________ 11 _______ -2.25 __ -9
Chaos Champion: ______ 102.2 ____ -25.73 __ +2.2
Chaos Marine: _________ 31.2 _____ -4.05 __ -8.8
Chaos Marine Veteran: _ 40.56 ____ -5.265 _ -9.44
Chaos Squat: __________ 17.4 _____ -1.8 __ -12.6
Cultist: _______________ 9.5 ______ 0 ____ -10.5
Gretchin: ______________ 5.8568 __ +0.64 __ -6.643
Havok: ________________ 37.8 _____ -0.9 __ -22.2
Minotaur: _____________ 19.25 ____ -4.125 _ -0.75
Ogryn Squad: __________ 22.33 ____ -4.95 __ -7.67
Ork Boyz: _____________ 12.65 ____ -1.65 _ -12.35
Raptor Marine: ________ 22.8 _____ -6.975_ -17.2
Renegade Psyker: ______ 35.5 ______ 0 _____ -2
Slave: _________________ 6.5 ______ 0 _____ -8.5
Troll: ________________ 20.79 ____ -4.455 _ +0.79

Cultist Rider: _ 14 _____ -2 ___ -6
Biker: _________ 13.005 _ -2.7 _ -6.995

Chaos Dreadnought: _ 26.4 _____ 0 __ -11.1
Chaos Spawn: _______ 44.567 ___ 0 ___ -5.433

Leman Russ: _ 51.55 ____ -3.5 __ -33.45
Rhino: ______ 28.638 ____ 0 ____ +13.64

Rapier: ______ 21.5 ___ +2.25 __ -3.5
Zulu AA Gun: _ 15.638 _ -2.025 _ -4.363

Dreadclaw: __ 184.43 __ -49.88 __ +84.43
Hell Blade: _ 140.55 _ -142.7 ___ +55.55
Hell Talon: _ 178.37 __ -99.38 _ -172

Death Wheel: _ 198.6 ___ -67.5 __ -51.4
Decimator: ___ 175.5 ____ +9 ___ -124.5

Warhound hull: __ 293.57 __ -51.52 _ +168.6
Reaver hull: ____ 331.49 __ -48.3 ___ +31.49
Warlord hull: ___ 407.53 __ -33.81 __ -92.47

__ Chaos Renegade Formations
_ Company:
Chaos Renegades: _ 322 __ -43 __ -278
Cultist Army: ____ 188 __ -10 __ -212
Beastmen Horde: __ 286 __ -59 __ -214
Monster Horde: ___ 381 __ -81 ___ -18

_ Special:
Chaos Champion: __ 102 __ -26 ____ +2
Chaos Spawn: ______ 45 ____ 0 __ -105
Renegade Psykers _ 107 ____ 0 ___ -43
Slave Warband: ____ 49 ____ 0 __ -101
Death Wheel: _____ 199 __ -67 ___ -51
Warhound hull: ___ 294 __ -51 __ +169
2x Warhound hulls_ 587 _ -101 __ +587
Reaver hull: _____ 331 __ -49 ___ +31
Warlord hull: ____ 408 __ -33 ___ -92

_ Support:
Androids: _______________ 53 __ -10 ____ +3
Beastmen Warband: _______ 83 __ -16 __ -117
Chaos Squat: ____________ 73 ___ -8 ___ -77
Chaos Marine Warband: __ 119 __ -15 ___ -81
Chaos Marine Veterans: _ 154 __ -20 ___ -96
Cultist Warband: ________ 71 ____ 0 __ -129
Gretchin Bandits: _______ 18 ___ +2 ___ -32
Havok Warband: _________ 144 ___ -3 __ -156
Minotaur Warband: ______ 188 __ -40 ___ -62
Ogryn Warband: __________ 67 __ -15 ___ -48
Ork Boyz Warband: _______ 38 ___ -5 ___ -62
Raptor Warband: _________ 87 __ -26 __ -113
Troll Warband: _________ 199 __ -42 ___ -51
Chaos Dreadnought: ______ 79 ____ 0 ___ -71
Cultist Riders: _________ 53 __ -15 ___ -47
Biker Warband: __________ 49 __ -11 ___ -51
Leman Russ: ____________ 120 ___ -8 __ -130
Rhino: __________________ 67 ____ 0 ___ +17
Rapier Battery: _________ 50 ___ +5 ___ -25
Zulu AA Battery: ________ 59 ___ -8 ___ -41
Dreadclaw Assault: _____ 184 __ -50 ___ +84
Hell Talon: ____________ 178 _ -100 ___ +72
Hell Blade: ____________ 328 _ -285 ___ +78
Decimator: _____________ 176 ___ +9 __ -124


Sample Army _________ v046 __ 043 ___ Gold
---Greyclaw's Horde (pdf p9)
Chaos Renegades _____ 322 __ 365 __ 600
-Sp Renegade Psykers _ 107 __ 120 __ 150
-Su Biker _____________ 49 ___ 60 __ 100
-Su Ork Boyz __________ 38 ___ 43 __ 100
Cultist Army _________ 188 __ 198 __ 400
-Su Cultist __________ 71 ___ 71 __ 200
-Su Cultist __________ 71 ___ 71 __ 200
-Su Cultist Riders ____ 53 ___ 68 __ 100
-Su Rapier ____________ 50 ___ 45 ___ 75
-Su Rapier ____________ 50 ___ 45 ___ 75
Beastmen Horde _______ 286 __ 345 __ 500
-Su Troll ____________ 199 __ 241 __ 250
-Su Minotaur _________ 188 __ 228 __ 250
--- Totals _________ 1673 _ 1900 _ 3000

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:34 am 
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Hi!

I like how cheap cultists are. They should be used more often in big masses. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:16 am 
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Apologies, I made couple of errors when calculating weapon costs. Changes are:

Hell Talon 424 (+26); Support: 510 (+35)

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:11 am 
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Note that both the Rapier and the Zulu AA have negative/zero value errors. The Gretchin also do at the end, but not until then, and only due to rounding.

__ Values for Plan: ____ A ____ B _____ C ____ D _____ E _____ F
_ Chaos Renegades
Android: ______________ 30 ___ 27 ____ 30 ___ 27 ____ 34 ___ 31
Aspiring Champion: ____ 49 ___ 46.75 _ 49 ___ 46.75 _ 57 ___ 54.75
Beastmen: _____________ 20 ___ 18.5 __ 20 ___ 18.5 __ 23 ___ 21.5
Chaos Champion: ______ 113 ___ 99.5 _ 113 ___ 99.5 _ 134 __ 120.5
Chaos Marine: _________ 44 ___ 35 ____ 44 ___ 35 ____ 48.5 _ 39.5
Chaos Marine Veteran: _ 64 ___ 55 ____ 64 ___ 55 ____ 68.5 _ 59.5
Chaos Squat: __________ 22 ___ 16 ____ 22 ___ 16 ____ 24 ___ 18
Cultist: ______________ 10 ____ 7 ____ 10 ____ 7 ____ 10 ____ 7
Gretchin: ______________ 3.8 __ 2.45 __ 3.8 __ 2.45 __ 2.8 __ 1.45
Havok: ________________ 42 ___ 24 ____ 42 ___ 24 ____ 43 ___ 25
Minotaur: _____________ 34 ___ 34 ____ 34 ___ 34 ____ 39 ___ 39
Ogryn Squad: __________ 40.4 _ 38.6 __ 40.4 _ 38.6 __ 46.4 _ 44.6
Ork Boyz: _____________ 18 ___ 15 ____ 18 ___ 15 ____ 20 ___ 17
Raptor Marine: ________ 31.5 _ 30 ____ 31.5 _ 30 ____ 39 ___ 37.5
Renegade Psyker: ______ 44 ___ 30.5 __ 44 ___ 30.5 __ 44 ___ 30.5
Slave: _________________ 6 ____ 6 _____ 6 ____ 6 _____ 6 ____ 6
Troll: ________________ 54 ___ 54 ____ 54 ___ 54 ____ 59 ___ 59

Cultist Rider: _ 12 ___ 12 ____ 12 ___ 12 ____ 14 ___ 14
Biker: _________ 14.6 _ 14.15 _ 14.6 _ 14.15 _ 17.6 _ 17.15

Chaos Dreadnought: _ 28 ____ 22 ____ 28 ____ 22 ____ 28 ____ 22
Chaos Spawn: _______ 46.33 _ 44.83 _ 46.33 _ 44.83 _ 46.33 _ 44.83

Leman Russ: _ 73.03 _ 43.78 _ 73.03 _ 43.78 _ 77.03 _ 47.78
Rhino: ______ 31.03 _ 29.51 _ 31.03 _ 29.51 _ 31.03 _ 29.51

Rapier: ______ 18 ____ 0 ___ 18 ____ 0 ___ 15 _ -3
Zulu AA Gun: _ 25.5 _ -1.5 _ 25.5 _ -1.5 _ 27 __ 0

Dreadclaw: __ 209 _ 182 ___ 209 _ 182 ___ 269 _ 242
Hell Blade: _ 158 _ 153.5 _ 158 _ 153.5 _ 302 _ 297.5
Hell Talon: _ 424 _ 406 ___ 388 _ 370 ___ 557 _ 503

Death Wheel: _ 218 _ 167 _ 218 _ 167 _ 338 _ 287
Decimator: ___ 230 _ 116 _ 230 _ 116 _ 248 _ 134

Warhound: _ 383 _ 383 _ 383 _ 383 _ 543 _ 543
Reaver: ___ 414 _ 414 _ 414 _ 414 _ 630 _ 630
Warlord: __ 457 _ 457 _ 457 _ 457 _ 695 _ 695

_ Chaos Renegade Formations (BP 100%)
_ Company:
Chaos Renegades: _ 285 _ 240 _ 285 _ 240 _ 315 _ 270
Cultist Army: ____ 120 __ 90 _ 120 __ 90 _ 125 __ 95
Beastmen Horde: __ 300 _ 285 _ 300 _ 285 _ 350 _ 105
Monster Horde: ___ 470 _ 470 _ 470 _ 470 _ 530 _ 525

_ Special:
Chaos Champion: __ 125 _ 110 _ 125 _ 110 _ 150 _ 135
Chaos Spawn: _____ 155 _ 155 _ 155 _ 150 _ 155 _ 150
Renegade Psykers: _ 70 __ 50 __ 70 __ 50 __ 70 __ 50
Slave Warband: ____ 25 __ 25 __ 25 __ 25 __ 25 __ 25
Death Wheel: _____ 210 _ 160 _ 210 _ 160 _ 325 _ 275
Warhound Titan: __ 430 _ 430 _ 430 _ 430 _ 610 _ 610
Reaver Titan: ____ 465 _ 465 _ 465 _ 465 _ 705 _ 705
Warlord Titan: ___ 510 _ 510 _ 510 _ 510 _ 780 _ 780

_ Support:
Androids: _______________ 65 __ 60 __ 65 __ 60 __ 75 __ 65
Beastmen Warband: ______ 100 __ 95 _ 100 __ 95 _ 115 _ 105
Chaos Squat: ___________ 105 __ 75 _ 105 __ 75 _ 115 __ 85
Chaos Marine Warband: __ 160 _ 125 _ 160 _ 125 _ 175 _ 140
Chaos Marine Veterans: _ 250 _ 215 _ 250 _ 215 _ 265 _ 230
Cultist Warband: ________ 50 __ 35 __ 50 __ 35 __ 50 __ 35
Gretchin Bandits: ________ 5 ___ 5 ___ 5 ___ 5 ___ 5 ___ 0 (2.48)
Havok Warband: _________ 150 __ 85 _ 150 __ 85 _ 155 __ 90
Minotaur Warband: ______ 240 _ 240 _ 240 _ 240 _ 280 _ 275
Ogryn Warband: __________ 90 __ 85 __ 90 __ 85 _ 100 _ 100
Ork Boyz Warband: _______ 40 __ 35 __ 40 __ 35 __ 45 __ 35
Raptor Warband: ________ 115 _ 110 _ 115 _ 110 _ 140 _ 135
Troll Warband: _________ 330 _ 325 _ 330 _ 325 _ 360 _ 360
Chaos Dreadnought: ______ 65 __ 55 __ 65 __ 55 __ 65 __ 55
Cultist Riders: _________ 35 __ 35 __ 35 __ 35 __ 40 __ 40
Biker Warband: __________ 40 __ 40 __ 40 __ 40 __ 50 __ 45
Leman Russ: ____________ 145 __ 90 _ 145 __ 90 _ 155 __ 95
Rhino: __________________ 60 __ 60 __ 60 __ 60 __ 60 __ 60
Rapier Battery: _________ 35 ___ 0 __ 35 ___ 0 __ 30 __ -6
Zulu AA Battery: ________ 70 __ -5 __ 70 __ -5 __ 75 ___ 0
Dreadclaw Assault: _____ 250 _ 220 _ 250 _ 220 _ 325 _ 290
Hell Talon: ____________ 510 _ 485 _ 465 _ 445 _ 670 _ 605
Hell Blade: ____________ 380 _ 370 _ 380 _ 370 _ 725 _ 715
Decimator: _____________ 275 _ 140 _ 275 _ 140 _ 300 _ 160

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:53 pm 
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Fascinating. I seem to have forgotten to update these for the tweak runs. I thought I had done all of the lists. Well, I seem to have forgotten to post the update anyway. The following includes the tweak runs (first batch), transport revision, and errata update.

__ Chaos Renegades
Android: ______________ 31
Aspiring Champion: ____ 54.75
Beastmen: _____________ 21.5
Chaos Champion: ______ 120.5
Chaos Marine: _________ 39.5
Chaos Marine Veteran: _ 59.5
Chaos Squat: __________ 18
Cultist: _______________ 7
Gretchin: ______________ 1.45
Havok: ________________ 25
Minotaur: _____________ 39
Ogryn Squad: __________ 44.6
Ork Boyz: _____________ 17
Raptor Marine: ________ 37.5
Renegade Psyker: ______ 30.5
Slave: _________________ 6
Troll: ________________ 59

Cultist Rider: _ 20
Biker: _________ 17.15

Chaos Dreadnought: _ 22
Chaos Spawn: _______ 44.83

Leman Russ: _ 47.78
Rhino: ______ 29.38 [Transport 2: Inf 1/1 or W 1/2; 1 LA no slots]

Rapier: ______ -3
Zulu AA Gun: __ 0

Dreadclaw: __ 238.3 [Transport 6: Inf 1/1 or W 2/3 or LA 1/2]
Hell Blade: _ 297.5
Hell Talon: _ 503

Death Wheel: _ 287
Decimator: ___ 134

Warhound: _ 543
Reaver: ___ 630
Warlord: __ 695

_ Chaos Renegade Formations
_ Company:
Chaos Renegades: _ 270
Cultist Army: _____ 95
Beastmen Horde: __ 330
Monster Horde: ___ 525

_ Special:
Chaos Champion: __ 135
Chaos Spawn: _____ 150
Renegade Psykers: _ 50
Slave Warband: ____ 25
Death Wheel: _____ 275
Warhound Titan: __ 610
Reaver Titan: ____ 705
Warlord Titan: ___ 780

_ Support:
Androids: _______________ 65
Beastmen Warband: ______ 105
Chaos Squat: ____________ 85
Chaos Marine Warband: __ 140
Chaos Marine Veterans: _ 230
Cultist Warband: ________ 35
Gretchin Bandits: ________ 0 (2.48)
Havok Warband: __________ 90
Minotaur Warband: ______ 275
Ogryn Warband: _________ 100
Ork Boyz Warband: _______ 35
Raptor Warband: ________ 135
Troll Warband: _________ 360
Chaos Dreadnought: ______ 55
Cultist Riders: _________ 60
Biker Warband: __________ 45
Leman Russ: _____________ 95
Rhino: __________________ 60
Rapier Battery: __________ 0
Zulu AA Battery: _________ 0
Dreadclaw Assault: _____ 285
Hell Talon: ____________ 605
Hell Blade: ____________ 715
Decimator: _____________ 160

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:17 am 
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Updated for tweak2.

__ Chaos Renegades
Android: ______________ 31
Aspiring Champion: ____ 53.5
Beastmen: _____________ 22
Chaos Champion: ______ 121
Chaos Marine: _________ 40.5
Chaos Marine Veteran: _ 60.5
Chaos Squat: __________ 20
Cultist: _______________ 8
Gretchin: ______________ 1.9
Havok: ________________ 29
Minotaur: _____________ 37
Ogryn Squad: __________ 43.2
Ork Boyz: _____________ 18
Raptor Marine: ________ 37
Renegade Psyker: ______ 35
Slave: _________________ 6
Troll: ________________ 57

Cultist Rider: _ 20
Biker: _________ 17.3

Chaos Dreadnought: _ 22
Chaos Spawn: _______ 42.83

Leman Russ: _ 55.55
Rhino: ______ 26.89 [Transport 2: Inf 1/1 or W 1/2; 1 LA no slots]

Rapier: ______ 3
Zulu AA Gun: _ 9

Dreadclaw: __ 243.3 [Transport 6: Inf 1/1 or W 2/3 or LA 1/2]
Hell Blade: _ 296
Hell Talon: _ 519.5

Death Wheel: _ 298
Decimator: ___ 160

Warhound: _ 516.5
Reaver: ___ 577.8
Warlord: __ 638.3

_ Chaos Renegade Formations
_ Company:
Chaos Renegades: _ 278
Cultist Army: ____ 106
Beastmen Horde: __ 330
Monster Horde: ___ 504

_ Special:
Chaos Champion: __ 136
Chaos Spawn: _____ 144
Renegade Psykers: _ 56
Slave Warband: ____ 24
Death Wheel: _____ 286
Warhound Titan: __ 578
Reaver Titan: ____ 647
Warlord Titan: ___ 715

_ Support:
Androids: _______________ 67
Beastmen Warband: ______ 110
Chaos Squat: ____________ 96
Chaos Marine Warband: __ 146
Chaos Marine Veterans: _ 236
Cultist Warband: ________ 40
Gretchin Bandits: ________ 3
Havok Warband: _________ 104
Minotaur Warband: ______ 263
Ogryn Warband: __________ 95
Ork Boyz Warband: _______ 40
Raptor Warband: ________ 133
Troll Warband: _________ 349
Chaos Dreadnought: ______ 53
Cultist Riders: _________ 60
Biker Warband: __________ 47
Leman Russ: ____________ 111
Rhino: __________________ 54
Rapier Battery: __________ 6
Zulu AA Battery: ________ 24
Dreadclaw Assault: _____ 292
Hell Talon: ____________ 623
Hell Blade: ____________ 710
Decimator: _____________ 192

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:39 am 
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OP updated with most recent values.

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:37 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:12 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:01 pm 
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Hi!

This list looks good as is, nothing really stands out. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
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OP updated for V0.41

Added Morale and Command / Orders adjustments to Model cost.

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Renegades list
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Updated to V0.43.

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