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Points formula values for Orks

 Post subject: Points formula values for Orks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:55 am 
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Updated to most recent version of the formula (version 0.46).
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Model or Formation name _ V0.46 Cost _ vs 0.43 _ vs Gold

_ Ork models:
Freebooterz Kaptin _ 30.1 ___ -2.1 __ +25.1
Freebooterz Boyz: ___ 6.05 __ -0.825 _ +1.05
Mekboy: ____________ 58.1 ___ -3.15 _ -41.9
Mega-Gargant Kaptin: 63 ____ -14.7 __ -37
Painboy: ___________ 45.5 ___ -3.15 _ -54.5
Runtherd: __________ 42.7 ___ -3.15 _ -32.3
Stormboy Kaptin: ___ 38.5 ___ -8.14 __ +8.5
Warboss: ___________ 83.3 __ -18.375_ -16.7
Warlord: __________ 106.4 __ -25.725_ -93.6
Weirdboy: _________ 584.43 ___ 0 ___ +484.43
Weirdboy Minder: ____ 9.24 __ -0.66 _ -15.76

Bad Moon Boyz: ____ 14.52 __ -0.66 __ -10.48
Blood Axe Boyz: ____ 9.24 __ -0.66 __ -15.76
BA Kommando Kaptin: 40.32 __ -5.67 __ -14.68
BA Kommando: ______ 14.52 __ -2.61 __ -15.48
Deathskull Boyz: ___ 9.24 __ -0.66 __ -15.76
Deathskull Shoota:_ 30.888 _ -2.112 _ -19.112
Evil Sunz Boyz: ____ 9.24 __ -0.66 __ -15.76
Goff Boyz: ________ 11 _____ -1.98 __ -14
Gretchin: __________ 6.028 __ 0.66 ___ -0.222
Madboyz: __________ 14.7 ___ -1.05 ___ +9.7
Nobz: _____________ 81.2 __ -14.7 ___ +31.2
Riggerz: __________ 17.5 ___ -1.05 __ +17.5
Snakebite Boyz: ___ 10.2 ___ -1.32 __ -14.88
Stormboyz: ________ 14 _____ -1.81 __ -16
Wildboyz: __________ 8.36 __ -1.98 __ -10.39

Bikeboyz: ______ 18.194 __ -10.56 ___ -1.806
Nobz Warbike: __ 94.5 ____ -52.5 ___ +54.5
Boarboyz SN: ___ 16.434 ___ -7.04 ___ -3.566

Killer Dreadnought: _______ 21.12 __ 0 __ -3.88
Dreadnought, Onslaughter: _ 37.84 __ 0 _ -12.16
Tinbot MK: ________________ 33.88 __ 0 __ +3.88

Battlewagon: __________________ 30.14 ___ -1.54 ___ -4.86
Battlewagon Blastakannon: _____ 72.1 ____ -3.85 __ +37.1
Battlewagon Double Kannon: ____ 60.55 ___ -3.85 __ +25.55
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: _ 69.265 __ -3.85 __ +34.265
Bonebreaka: ___________________ 47.96 ___ -6.16 ___ -2.04
Bonecruncha: __________________ 43.12 ___ -6.16 ___ -6.88
Bowelburna ES: ________________ 26.037 _ -41.613 __ -7.263
Braincrusha: __________________ 43.34 ____ 0 _____ -41.66
Copter: _______________________ 47.6 _____ 0.1 ___ +17.6
Cyberwyvern SN: _______________ 49.17 ____ 0 _____ +19.17
Doomdiver MagnaKannon MK: _____ 54.736 ___ 0 ______ +4.736
Flakwagon MK: _________________ 34.98 ___ -2.42 __ -15.02
Gobsmasha ES: _________________ 17.38 ____ 0 ______ -2.62
Gutrippa G: ___________________ 37.84 ___ -6.16 ___ +2.84
Land Raider BA: _______________ 51.491 __ -4.62 __ -13.509
Lungbursta G: _________________ 33.88 ___ -5.5 ____ -1.12
Rhino BA: _____________________ 25.201 ___ 0 _____ +10.201
Scorcha: ______________________ 18.088 _ -12.272 __ +3.088
Spleenrippa ES: _______________ 29.04 ____ 0 _____ -12.627
Squiggoth: ____________________ 46.2 _____ 1.1 ____ -3.8
Trukk: ________________________ 25.311 ___ 0 ______ +5.311
Warbuggy: _____________________ 22 ______ -6.6 ____ +2
Wartrak: ______________________ 22.88 ___ -3.3 ____ +2.88
Weirdboy Battletower BM: _____ 400.84 ___ -2.42 _ +200.84

Bubble Chukka Speedsta: ______ 40.363 __ -7.304 _ -59.637
Destrukta Rokkits Speedsta: __ 51.788 _ -13.596 _ -48.212
Dragsta: _____________________ 68.376 _ -10.824 _ -31.624
Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ______ 73.436 _ -13.596 _ -26.564
Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: _______ 69.036 __ -5.544 _ -30.964

Field Gun / Hop Splat: _ 11.352 _ -11.352 _ -18.648
Lobba: _________________ 19.118 _ -14.058 __ -0.882
Shokk Attack Gun MK: ___ 15.4 _____ 0.66 ___ -9.6
Zzap Gun: ______________ 13.42 ____ 4.62 ___ -6.58

Pulsa Rokkit MK: __ 18.687 ___ 0 ____ -66.313
Squig Katapult: ___ 24.578 __ -0.66 _ -10.422
Soopa Gun MK: ____ 148.5 _____ 0 _____ -1.5
Traktor Kannon: ___ 12.54 ____ 0 _____ -2.46

Blasta Bomma: _________ 250.6 __ -103.95 __ -249.4
Bomma: ________________ 105.9 ____ -0.3025 __ +5.9032
Fighta-Bomma MK: ______ 118.37 __ -38.72 ___ +53.37
Landa: _________________ 95.484 __ +5.808 ___ -4.5165
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit _ 118.03 __ +29.722 __ +68.026

Gibletgrinda: _____________ 182.7 ___ -8.4 ____ +82.7 [Transport 5: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: _ 170.49 _ -18.375 _ -229.51
Mega-Squiggoth: ___________ 200.99 __ -6.6 ____ -49.008
Skullhamma: _______________ 130.11 __ -9.8 ____ +30.113 [Transport 5: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2] *
Stompa: ___________________ 111.56 __ +2.464 __ +26.558
Super Stompa: _____________ 155.91 __ +3.08 __ -144.09

Mekboy Gargant hull: _ 203.02 __ -40.25 _ -246.98
Slasha Gargant hull: _ 286.33 ___ -9.66 __ -13.672
Great Gargant hull: __ 327.92 __ -12.075 _ -72.078
Mega-Gargant: ________ 836.11 ___ +5.03 _ -563.89

Note that Mekboy Gargants now must purchase two arm weapons instead of having a fixed cost. See below for list.

Formations
_ Company
Bad Moon Clan: ___ 439 __ -58 __ -161
Blood Axe Clan: __ 478 __ -50 __ -122
Deathskull Clan: _ 424 __ -66 ___ -76
Evil Sunz Clan: __ 440 __ -55 __ -160
Goff Clan: _______ 778 _ -140 __ +128
Snakebite Clan: __ 421 __ -86 __ -189
Kult of Speed: ___ 533 _ -255 __ +133
Wildboyz Horde: __ 372 __ -73 ___ -28
Mega-Gargant: ____ 836 ___ +5 __ -564

_ Special
Blasta Bomma: ______________ 251 __ -104 _ -249
Freebooterz: ________________ 47 ____ -4 ___ -3
Gretchin Horde: _____________ 36 ____ +4 __ -14
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: __ 182 ___ -20 _ -218
Landa Mob: _________________ 363 ___ +22 __ -87
Mekboy: _____________________ 67 ____ -3 __ -33
Painboy: ____________________ 54 ____ -3 __ -46
Renegade Mekboyz: varies, any 8 of
_ Bubble Chukka: _______________ 30 __ -6
_ Destruckta Rokkits Speedsta: _ 39 _ -10
_ Dragsta: _____________________ 51 __ -8
_ Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ______ 55 _ -10
_ Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: _______ 52 __ -4
Runtherd: ___________________ 43 ____ -3 __ -32
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit Mob: _ 472 ___ 119 _ +272
Warboss: ___________________ 413 ___ -73 _ +163
Warlord & Stompa: __________ 697 ___ -73 _ +197
Weirdboy & Minderz: ________ 588 _____ 0 _ +438
Mekboy Gargant hull: _______ 203 ___ -58 _ -247 +2 weapons
Slasha Gargant hull: _______ 286 ___ -10 __ -14 +2 weapons
Great Gargant hull: ________ 328 ___ -12 __ -72 +2 weapons & Head?
Gargant Big Mob: varies

any Warboss or Warlord formation may upgrade their Battlewagons to:
Battlewagon Blastakannon: _____ +63 __ -3
Battlewagon Double Kannon: ____ +46 __ -3
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: _ +59 __ -3


_ Support
Extra Bad Moon Boyz: ___ 44 ___ -2 __ -56
Extra Blood Axe Boyz: __ 28 ___ -2 __ -72
Extra Deathskull Boyz: _ 28 ___ -2 __ -72
Extra Evil Sunz [3B,1BW] 49 ___ -3 __ -51
Extra Evil Sunz Boyz[4B] 28 ___ -2 __ -72
Extra Goff Boyz: _______ 33 ___ -6 __ -67
Extra Snakebite Boyz: __ 30 ___ -4 __ -70
Extra Nobz: ___________ 244 __ -44 __ +44
BA Kommandos: __________ 81 __ -13 __ -94
DS Shoota: _____________ 93 ____ 0 _ -107
Gretchin Mob: __________ 18 ___ +2 __ +18
Madmob: ________________ 44 ___ -3 __ +44
Stormboyz Korps: _______ 78 __ -13 __ -82
Wildmob: _______________ 25 ___ -6 __ -50

Bikeboyz Mob: _____ 69 __ -40 __ -31
ES Nobz Warbike: _ 359 _ -200 _ +159
Sn Boarboyz Mob: __ 62 __ -27 __ -38

Killa Kan Mob: ____ 63 ___ 0 __ -37
Onslaughter Mob: _ 114 ___ 0 __ -86
Tinbot Mob: ______ 129 ___ 0 __ -21

BM Weirdboy Battletower: _ 401 ___ -2 _ +201
Battlewagon: ______________ 70 ___ -6 __ -30
BA Land Raider: __________ 120 __ -11 __ -80
BA Rhino: _________________ 59 ____ 0 ___ +9
Bonebreaka: ______________ 112 __ -14 __ -38
Bonecruncha: _____________ 101 __ -14 __ -49
Braincrusha: _____________ 101 ____ 0 _ -149
Copter: __________________ 181 ____ 0 __ +31
Doomdiver AA: _____________ 55 ____ 0 ___ +5
ES Bowelburna: ____________ 61 __ -97 __ -39
ES Gobsmasha: _____________ 66 ____ 0 __ -34
ES Spleenrippa: ___________ 68 ____ 0 __ -57
Flakwagon AA: _____________ 82 ___ -5 __ -78
Gf Gutrippa: ______________ 88 __ -15 __ -12
Gf Lungbursta: ____________ 79 ___ -4 __ -21
Scorcha: __________________ 42 __ -26 ___ -8
Sn Cyberwyvern: __________ 187 ____ 0 __ +37
Sn Squiggoth: ____________ 108 ___ +3 __ -42
Trukk: ____________________ 96 ____ 0 ___ -4
Warbuggy: _________________ 84 __ -25 __ -16
Wartrak: __________________ 87 __ -12 __ -13

MK Bubble Chukka: _____________ 40 __ -8 __ -60
MK Destrukta Rokkit Speedsta: _ 52 _ -13 __ -48
MK Dragsta: ___________________ 68 _ -11 __ -32
MK Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ____ 73 _ -14 __ -27
MK Lifta-Droppa: ______________ 69 __ -6 __ -31

Hop-Splat: ________ 43 ___ -3 _ -107
Lobba: ____________ 73 ___ +8 __ -27
Skokk Attack Gun: _ 46 ___ +2 __ -54
Zzap Gun: _________ 51 __ +18 __ -49

Pulsa Rokkit: ______ 44 ____ 0 _ -206
Sn Squig Katapult: _ 57 ___ -2 __ -43
Soopa Gun: ________ 149 ____ 0 ___ -1
Traktor Kannon: ____ 48 ____ 0 __ -27

Bomma: _________________ 247 ___ -1 __ -53
Fighta-Bomma: __________ 276 __ -91 __ +76
Landa: __________________ 95 ___ +5 ___ -5
Supa Rokkit Trans'ort: _ 118 __ +30 __ +68

Gibletgrinda: ___ 183 __ -8 __ +83
Mega-Squiggoth: _ 201 __ -7 __ -49
Skullhamma: _____ 130 _ -10 __ +30
Stompaz: ________ 260 __ +5 __ +10
Supa Stompa: ____ 156 __ +3 _ -144

_ Mekboy Gargant Weapons:
Buzz Saw Arm: ________ 65 __ 0 __ +65
Krusher Arm: _________ 11 __ 0 __ +11
Kustom Kannon: _______ 68 __ 0 __ +68
Super-Lifta Droppa: _ 130 __ 0 _ +130

_ Gargant Weapons: ___ uses _ base (OT)
Battle Cannon Head _____ G ____ 60 (75) ___ 0 _ (0) ___ -5
Battle Cannon Turret ___ G ____ 14 (18) ___ 0 _ (0) __ -11
Cluster Buster _________ S ____ 27 ________ 0 ________ -38
Deth Kannon ____________ S ___ 103 ________ 0 ________ +18
Flak Kannon ____________ G,S __ 13 ________ 0 ________ -22
Flak Kannon ___ G Head Turret _ 26 ________ 0 _________ -9
Gatling Cannon _________ G ____ 52 (64) ___ 0 _ (0) __ -23
Gork Head Traktor Kannon G,S __ 97(122) ___ 0 _ (0) __ +47
Gutbuster, Augmented ___ G ____ 44 (55) ___ 0 _ (0) _ -106
Gutbuster ______________ G,S __ 27 (34) ___ 0 _ (0) __ -73
Magna Kannon ___________ G,S __ 83(104) ___ 0 _ (0) __ +33
Magna Kannon _ G Head Turret _ 166(208) ___ 0 _ (0) _ +116
Magnum Mega-Cannon _____ G ____ 34 (43) ___ 0 _ (0) __ -51
Mork Head with Scorcher_ G,S __ 52 (66) ___ 0 _ (0) ___ +2
Observation Turret _____ G _____ 0 but alters cost of other weapons
Ripper Fist ____________ G,S __ 68 ______ +35 _________ +3
Scorcher Turret ________ G ____ 14 (17) ___ 0 _ (0) ___ -1
Slasha Attack Gun ______ S ____ 72 ________ 0 _________ -3
Snapper ________________ G,S __ 48 ______ -38 ________ +23
Super Lifta-Droppa _____ G ___ 130 (163) __ 0 _ (0) __ +55


Sample Army _____________ v046 __ 043 ___ Gold
---Orks (pdf p7)
Goff Clan ________________ 778 __ 918 __ 650
-Sp Warboss ______________ 413 __ 485 __ 250
-Su Lungbursta ____________ 79 ___ 92 __ 100
-Su Gretchin Mob __________ 18 ___ 16 ____ 0
Bad Moonz Clan ___________ 439 __ 497 __ 600
-Su Weirdboy Battletower _ 401 __ 403 __ 200
-Su Extra Nobz ___________ 244 __ 288 __ 200
-Su Gretchin Mob __________ 18 ___ 16 ____ 0
Snakebite Clan ___________ 421 __ 507 __ 600
-Su Boarboyz Mob __________ 62 ___ 89 __ 100
-Su Squiggoth Mob ________ 108 __ 105 __ 150
-Su Bonebreaka ___________ 112 __ 126 __ 150
-Su Madmob ________________ 44 ___ 47 ____ 0
--- Totals ______________ 3136 _ 3590 _ 3000

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Orks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:24 pm 
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Sweet!

I guess you've answered the question on which ones are done, so I guess I will start with the eldar and post them. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Orks
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:31 am 
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Revised points for Transport costs, fixed a couple of minor errors, and finished Gargants.
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Model: New value (NEG)
_ Ork models:
Freebooterz Kaptin: 28 (0)
Freebooterz Boyz: 4 (0)
Mekboy: 54 (100)
Mega-Gargant Kaptin: 72
Painboy: 42 (100)
Runtherd: 41 (75)
Stormboy Kaptin: 39.5 (~30)
Warboss: 92 (100)
Warlord: 122 (200)
Weirdboy: 374 (100)
Weirdboy Minder: 14 (25)

Bad Moon Boyz: 22 (25)
Blood Axe Boyz: 14 (25)
Blood Axe Kommando Kaptin: 58 (55)
Blood Axe Kommando: 42 (30)
Deathskull Boyz: 14 (25)
Deathskull Shoota: 38 (50)
Evil Sunz Boyz: 14 (25)
Goff Boyz: 22 (25)
Gretchin: 3.8 (6.25)
Madboyz: 14 (0)
Nobz: 86 (50)
Riggerz: 15
Snakebite Boyz: 18 (25)
Stormboyz: 19.5 (25)
Wildboyz: 18 (18.75)

Bikeboyz: 26.7 (20)
Nobz Warbike: 86 (40)
Boarboyz SN: 26.7 (20)

Killer Dreadnought: 32 (25)
Dreadnought, Onslaughter: 60 (50)
Tinbot MK: 38 (30)

Battlewagon: 36 (35) [carries 3 Infantry/LA]
Battlewagon Blastakannon: 71.5 (35) [carries 3 Command Infantry]
Battlewagon Double Kannon: 55 (35) [carries 3 Command Infantry]
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: 85 (35) [carries 3 Command Infantry]
Bonebreaka: 73 (50)
Bonecruncha: 62 (50)
Bowelburna ES: 74.63 (33.3)
Braincrusha: 82 (85)
Copter: 48 (30)
Cyberwyvern SN: 62 (30)
Doomdiver MagnaKannon MK: 116 (50)
Flakwagon MK: 58 (50)
Gobsmasha ES: 22 (20)
Gutrippa G: 58 (35)
Land Raider BA: 84.03 (65) [carries 2 Infantry/LA or 1 Walker]
Lungbursta G: 64 (35)
Rhino BA: 31.03 (15) [carries 2 Infantry/LA or 1 Walker]
Scorcha: 31.25 (15)
Spleenrippa ES: 47 (41.67)
Squiggoth: 68 (50)
Trukk: 29.03 (20) [carries 2 Infantry/LA or 1 Walker, OTV]
Warbuggy: 24 (20) [carries 1 Infantry/LA]
Wartrak: 26 (20) [carries 1 Infantry/LA]
Weirdboy Battletower BM: 394 (200)

Bubble Chukka Speedsta: 44.8 (100)
Destrukta Rokkits Speedsta: 91.8 (100)
Dragsta: 82.8 (100)
Kustom Kannon Speedsta: 114.3 (100)
Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: 83.8 (100)

Field Gun / Hop Splat: 27 (30)
Lobba: 18 (20)
Shokk Attack Gun MK: 28.4 (25)
Zzap Gun: 9 (20)

Pulsa Rokkit MK: 98 (85)
Squig Katapult: 34.8 (35)
Soopa Gun MK: 256 (150)
Traktor Kannon: 18 (15)

Blasta Bomma: 524.6 (500)
Bomma: 168 (100)
Fighta-Bomma MK: 187 (65)
Landa: 148 (100) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker]
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit: 79.6 (50) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker]

Gibletgrinda: 182 (100) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker]
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: 207 (400)
Mega-Squiggoth: 468 (250) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker, OTV]
Skullhamma: 145 (100) [carries 1 Detachment of Infantry/LA or Walker]
Stompa: 136.2 (85)
Super Stompa: 190.2 (300)

Mekboy Gargant hull: 240
Slasha Gargant hull: 322.5
Great Gargant hull: 473.5
Mega-Gargant: 1578

Note that Mekboy Gargants now must purchase two arm weapons instead of having a fixed cost. See below for list.

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added details of Transport options used to list above.

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Formations (default BP 100%)
_ Company
Bad Moon Clan: 365
Blood Axe Clan: 375
Deathskull Clan: 315
Evil Sunz Clan: 340
Goff Clan: 590
Snakebite Clan: 375
Kult of Speed: 390
Wildboyz Horde: 430
Mega-Gargant: 1990

_ Special
Blasta Bomma: 590
Freebooterz: 25
Gretchin Horde: 10
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: 210
Landa Mob: 645
Mekboy: 60
Painboy: 50
Renegade Mekboyz: varies, any 8 of
_ Bubble Chukka: 35 each
_ Destruckta Rokkits Speedsta: 75 each
_ Dragsta: 65 each
_ Kustom Kannon Speedsta: 90 each
_ Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: 65 each
Runtherd: 45
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit Mob: 355
Warboss: 460
Warlord & Stompa: 765
Weirdboy & Minderz: 265
Mekboy Gargant hull: 270 +2 weapons
Slasha Gargant hull: 360 +2 weapons
Great Gargant hull: 530 +2 weapons
Gargant Big Mob: varies

any Warboss or Warlord formation may upgrade to:
Battlewagon Blastakannon: +50
Battlewagon Double Kannon: +25
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: +70


_ Support
Extra Bad Moon Boyz: 40
Extra Blood Axe Boyz: 25
Extra Deathskull Boyz: 25
Extra Evil Sunz: 35 [3 Boyz, 1 Battlewagon]
Extra Evil Sunz Boyz: 25 [4 Boyz]
Extra Goff Boyz: 40
Extra Snakebite Boyz: 30
Extra Nobz: 240
BA Kommandos: 145
DS Shoota: 65
Gretchin Mob: 5
Madmob: 40
Stormboyz Korps: 80
Wildmob: 30

Bikeboyz Mob: 70
ES Nobz Warbike: 360
Sn Boarboyz Mob: 70

Killa Kan Mob: 55
Onslaughter Mob: 105
Tinbot Mob: 140

BM Weirdboy Battletower: 345
Battlewagon: 65
BA Land Raider: 145
BA Rhino: 55
Bonebreaka: 130
Bonecruncha: 110
Braincrusha: 145
Copter: 145
Doomdiver AA: 100
ES Bowelburna: 130
ES Gobsmasha: 60
ES Spleenrippa: 85
Flakwagon AA: 100
Gf Gutrippa: 100
Gf Lungbursta: 115
Scorcha: 55
Sn Cyberwyvern: 165
Sn Squiggoth: 120
Trukk: 75
Warbuggy: 65
Wartrak: 70

MK Bubble Chukka: 40
MK Destrukta Rokkit Speedsta: 80
MK Dragsta: 75
MK Kustom Kannon Speedsta: 100
MK Lifta-Droppa: 75

Hop-Splat: 70
Lobba: 50
Skokk Attack Gun: 50
Zzap Gun: 25

Pulsa Rokkit: 170
Sn Squig Katapult: 60
Soopa Gun: 280
Traktor Kannon: 45

Bomma: 325
Fighta-Bomma: 360
Landa: 145
Supa Rokkit Trans'ort: 100

Gibletgrinda: 255
Mega-Squiggoth: 410
Skullhamma: 205
Stompaz: 335
Supa Stompa: 235

_ Mekboy Gargant Weapons:
Buzz Saw Arm: 45
Krusher Arm: 5
Kustom Kannon: 125
Super-Lifta Droppa: 125

_ Gargant Weapons:
Battle Cannon Head . . . G . . .70
Battle Cannon Turret . . G . . .40
Cluster Buster . . . . . S . . .55
Deth Kannon . . . . . . .S . . 180
Flak Kannon . . . . . . .G,S . .45
Gatling Cannon . . . . . G . . .90
Gork Head Traktor Kannon G,S . .60
Gutbuster, Augmented . . G . . 165
Gutbuster . . . . . . . .G,S . 105
Magna Kannon . . . . . . G,S . 540
Magnum Mega-Cannon . . . G . . .80
Mork Head with Scorcher .G,S . .50
Observation Turret . . . G . . . ? (50)
Ripper Fist . . . . . . .G,S. . 65
Scorcher Turret . . . . .G. . . 25
Slasha Attack Gun . . . .S . . 125
Snapper . . . . . . . . .G,S . 170
Super Lifta-Droppa . . . G . . 125

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I like how relatively cheap orks are in regards to other armies with better (looser) command radius. You should be able to get a lot of them in comparison.

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I would suggest, if using this system, to not have any requirements on the composition of the Renegade Mekboyz Special Formation, as if someone really wants to take a lot of the better models, he'll be paying more to do so.

Also, I could not come up with a value for the Observation Turret Gargant 'weapon'. It gives all weapons fired a +1 to hit versus one specific chosen target. Thus it's value could vary from turn to turn depending on how many weapons were fired at the chosen target. Thus I cannot mathematically give it a value. Aside from just using it's old value (in parenthesis above), I just don't know.

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I would suggest, if using this system, to not have any requirements on the composition of the Renegade Mekboyz Special Formation, as if someone really wants to take a lot of the better models, he'll be paying more to do so.

Also, I could not come up with a value for the Observation Turret Gargant 'weapon'. It gives all weapons fired a +1 to hit versus one specific chosen target. Thus it's value could vary from turn to turn depending on how many weapons were fired at the chosen target. Thus I cannot mathematically give it a value. Aside from just using it's old value (in parenthesis above), I just don't know.


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Agreed. There are many restrictions in place solely because of the implicit unbalance of their cost. Using the formula, many of these need to be discarded or modified.

In case of the gargant observation turret, would assigning a flat multiplier added to each weapon in addition to the observation turret would suffice?

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It was easy with the Imperial version, as there each weapon gets +1 to hit regardless of what they are shooting at. That is very helpful. This one less so. I suppose I could go through the weapons and see what difference +1 to hit makes to their value and then use half that. On the other hand, if a player builds their Gargant with a OT, they are probably planning to focus their fire most of the time anyway. Hmm. Perhaps 75%. I'll have to poke at them later and see how that works out.

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MagnusIlluminus wrote:
It was easy with the Imperial version, as there each weapon gets +1 to hit regardless of what they are shooting at. That is very helpful. This one less so. I suppose I could go through the weapons and see what difference +1 to hit makes to their value and then use half that. On the other hand, if a player builds their Gargant with a OT, they are probably planning to focus their fire most of the time anyway. Hmm. Perhaps 75%. I'll have to poke at them later and see how that works out.


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Sounds like a plan. :)

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I discovered that I had made an error when calculating many formation values for the Orks, so I adjusted appropriately and replaced the formation values in the post above with the fixed values. Note that many, but not all, formations are now slightly more expensive than they were before.

I also added one formation that I missed earlier.

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I discovered that I had made an error when calculating many formation values for the Orks, so I adjusted appropriately and replaced the formation values in the post above with the fixed values. Note that many, but not all, formations are now slightly more expensive than they were before.

I also added one formation that I missed earlier.


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Model: New value post tweaks and Transport revision
_ Ork models:
Freebooterz Kaptin: _27
Freebooterz Boyz: ___ 2
Mekboy: ____________ 45
Mega-Gargant Kaptin: 57
Painboy: ___________ 42
Runtherd: __________ 41
Stormboy Kaptin: ___ 44
Warboss: ___________ 80
Warlord: __________ 102.5
Weirdboy: __________ 98.12
Weirdboy Minder: ___ 12

Bad Moon Boyz: ____ 14
Blood Axe Boyz: ___ 12
BA Kommando Kaptin: 59.5
BA Kommando: ______ 42
Deathskull Boyz: __ 12
Deathskull Shoota:_ 14
Evil Sunz Boyz: ___ 12
Goff Boyz: ________ 22
Gretchin: __________ 1.45
Madboyz: __________ 12
Nobz: _____________ 71
Riggerz: __________ 16
Snakebite Boyz: ___ 17
Stormboyz: ________ 20.5
Wildboyz: _________ 21

Bikeboyz: ______ 36.34
Nobz Warbike: _ 110
Boarboyz SN: ___ 32.34

Killer Dreadnought: _______ 26
Dreadnought, Onslaughter: _ 42
Tinbot MK: ________________ 33.5

Battlewagon: __________________ 37.5 [Transport 3: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Battlewagon Blastakannon: _____ 46.63 [Transport 3: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Battlewagon Double Kannon: ____ 42.5 [Transport 3: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: _ 63.5 [Transport 3: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Bonebreaka: ___________________ 60.75
Bonecruncha: __________________ 58
Bowelburna ES: ________________ 53.31
Braincrusha: __________________ 34
Copter: _______________________ 59
Cyberwyvern SN: _______________ 62
Doomdiver MagnaKannon MK: _____ 44
Flakwagon MK: _________________ 37
Gobsmasha ES: _________________ 19
Gutrippa G: ___________________ 52.5
Land Raider BA: _______________ 61.01 [Transport 2: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Lungbursta G: _________________ 39
Rhino BA: _____________________ 29.38 [Transport 2: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Scorcha: ______________________ 29.63
Spleenrippa ES: _______________ 26.75
Squiggoth: ____________________ 54.5
Trukk: ________________________ 37.01 [Transport 2: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Warbuggy: _____________________ 37.5 [Transport 1: LA1/0]
Wartrak: ______________________ 34 [Transport 1: LA1/0]
Weirdboy Battletower BM: _____ 121.1

Bubble Chukka Speedsta: _____ 50.6
Destrukta Rokkits Speedsta: _ 85.5
Dragsta: ____________________ 95.6
Kustom Kannon Speedsta: _____ 96.75
Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: ______ 56.85

Field Gun / Hop Splat: _ 9
Lobba: _________________ 3
Shokk Attack Gun MK: ___ 7.6
Zzap Gun: _____________ -6

Pulsa Rokkit MK: __ 56
Squig Katapult: ___ 32.2
Soopa Gun MK: _____ 76
Traktor Kannon: ____ 9

Blasta Bomma: _________ 515.3
Bomma: ________________ 147.5
Fighta-Bomma MK: ______ 225.3
Landa: _________________ 80 [Transport 7: I1/1, W1/2]
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit: _ 92.15 [Transport 5: I1/1, W1/2]

Gibletgrinda: _____________ 187.3 [Transport 5: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: _ 197.9
Mega-Squiggoth: ___________ 365.3
Skullhamma: _______________ 135.4 [Transport 5: I1/1, LA1/0, W1/2]
Stompa: ___________________ 124
Super Stompa: _____________ 167.1

Mekboy Gargant hull: _ 420
Slasha Gargant hull: _ 514.5
Great Gargant hull: __ 713.5
Mega-Gargant: _______ 1218

Note that Mekboy Gargants now must purchase two arm weapons instead of having a fixed cost. See

below for list.

Formations (default BP 100%)
_ Company
Bad Moon Clan: ___ 275
Blood Axe Clan: __ 330
Deathskull Clan: _ 265
Evil Sunz Clan: __ 305
Goff Clan: _______ 510
Snakebite Clan: __ 345
Kult of Speed: ___ 530
Wildboyz Horde: __ 430
Mega-Gargant: ___ 1535

_ Special
Blasta Bomma: ______________ 575
Freebooterz: ________________ 20
Gretchin Horde: ______________ 5
Goffik Rokker Tour Wagon: __ 200
Landa Mob: _________________ 350
Mekboy: _____________________ 50
Painboy: ____________________ 50
Renegade Mekboyz: varies, any 8 of
_ Bubble Chukka: _______________ 40 each
_ Destruckta Rokkits Speedsta: _ 70 each
_ Dragsta: _____________________ 75 each
_ Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ______ 75 each
_ Lifta-Droppa Speedsta: _______ 45 each
Runtherd: ___________________ 45
Supa Trans'ort Rokkit Mob: _ 410
Warboss: ___________________ 390
Warlord & Stompa: __________ 665
Weirdboy & Minderz: _________ 75
Mekboy Gargant hull: _______ 470 +2 weapons
Slasha Gargant hull: _______ 575 +2 weapons
Great Gargant hull: ________ 800 +2 weapons
Gargant Big Mob: varies

any Warboss or Warlord formation may upgrade to:
Battlewagon Blastakannon: _____ +15
Battlewagon Double Kannon: ____ +10
Battlewagon Missile Launcher: _ +40


_ Support
Extra Bad Moon Boyz: ___ 25
Extra Blood Axe Boyz: __ 20
Extra Deathskull Boyz: _ 20
Extra Evil Sunz: _______ 30 [3 Boyz, 1 Battlewagon]
Extra Evil Sunz Boyz: __ 20 [4 Boyz]
Extra Goff Boyz: _______ 40
Extra Snakebite Boyz: __ 30
Extra Nobz: ___________ 200
BA Kommandos: _________ 150
DS Shoota: _____________ 25
Gretchin Mob: ___________ 5
Madmob: ________________ 35
Stormboyz Korps: _______ 85
Wildmob: _______________ 35

Bikeboyz Mob: _____ 95
ES Nobz Warbike: _ 460
Sn Boarboyz Mob: __ 85

Killa Kan Mob: ___ 45
Onslaughter Mob: _ 75
Tinbot Mob: _____ 125

BM Weirdboy Battletower: _ 105
Battlewagon: ______________ 65
BA Land Raider: __________ 105
BA Rhino: _________________ 50
Bonebreaka: ______________ 105
Bonecruncha: _____________ 100
Braincrusha: ______________ 60
Copter: __________________ 175
Doomdiver AA: _____________ 40
ES Bowelburna: ____________ 95
ES Gobsmasha: _____________ 50
ES Spleenrippa: ___________ 45
Flakwagon AA: _____________ 65
Gf Gutrippa: ______________ 90
Gf Lungbursta: ____________ 70
Scorcha: __________________ 50
Sn Cyberwyvern: __________ 165
Sn Squiggoth: _____________ 95
Trukk: ___________________ 100
Warbuggy: ________________ 100
Wartrak: __________________ 90

MK Bubble Chukka: _____________ 45
MK Destrukta Rokkit Speedsta: _ 75
MK Dragsta: ___________________ 85
MK Kustom Kannon Speedsta: ____ 45
MK Lifta-Droppa: ______________ 25

Hop-Splat: ________ 25
Lobba: ____________ 10
Skokk Attack Gun: _ 15
Zzap Gun: __________ 0

Pulsa Rokkit: _____ 100
Sn Squig Katapult: _ 55
Soopa Gun: _________ 85
Traktor Kannon: ____ 25

Bomma: _________________ 285
Fighta-Bomma: __________ 435
Landa: __________________ 75
Supa Rokkit Trans'ort: _ 115

Gibletgrinda: ___ 260
Mega-Squiggoth: _ 320
Skullhamma: _____ 190
Stompaz: ________ 305
Supa Stompa: ____ 205

_ Mekboy Gargant Weapons:
Buzz Saw Arm: ________ 0
Krusher Arm: _________ 0
Kustom Kannon: ______ 30
Super-Lifta Droppa: _ 65

_ Gargant Weapons: ___ uses __ cost _ cost with Observation Turret
Battle Cannon Head _____ G ____ 15 ___ 15
Battle Cannon Turret ___ G _____ 5 ___ 10
Cluster Buster _________ S ____ 25
Deth Kannon ____________ S ____ 45
Flak Kannon ____________ G,S __ 10
Gatling Cannon _________ G ____ 20 ___ 30
Gork Head Traktor Kannon G,S __ 35 ___ 45
Gutbuster, Augmented ___ G ____ 55 ___ 70
Gutbuster ______________ G,S __ 40 ___ 55
Magna Kannon ___________ G,S _ 135 __ 170
Magnum Mega-Cannon _____ G ____ 30 ___ 35
Mork Head with Scorcher_ G,S __ 35 ___ 40
Observation Turret _____ G _____ 0 plus alters cost of other weapons
Ripper Fist ____________ G,S ___ 5
Scorcher Turret ________ G _____ 5 ____ 5
Slasha Attack Gun ______ S ____ 30
Snapper ________________ G,S _ 170
Super Lifta-Droppa _____ G ____ 65 ___ 80

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Orks
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Updated cost of Battle Cannon turret for Gargant Weapon as per errata. All else is good.

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