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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:36 pm 
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Hi!

This thread is for posting on anything related to the revision of all other books without there own thread.

Those whom wish to supervise this list, please state so in your post and compile an editable document of the changes that are posted.

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 Post subject: Re: Army List: Other
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:33 pm 
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Status Update:

If you choose to "lead" a particular army, just post a message on the respective army thread as to where you are on reading the books for corrections and such.

This is just to get an idea to see where we are all at. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Army List: Other
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:53 pm 
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Question regarding Frateris Militia.

Seeing as the Guard are having their Command Rhinos upgraded to Chimera, should we do the same with the Frateris? From my perspective, the Frateris is to the Sisters much like the Guard is to the Marines. It's not an exact equivalency, just a similarity. This would be simpler, as it's only a matter of Company HQ units and Special formations that would be affected.

In a related question, should the Sisters retain use of Rhinos? I'd say yes, as even though they are not quite Marines, they are a armored fighting force.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:09 am 
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Question regarding Frateris Militia.

Seeing as the Guard are having their Command Rhinos upgraded to Chimera, should we do the same with the Frateris? From my perspective, the Frateris is to the Sisters much like the Guard is to the Marines. It's not an exact equivalency, just a similarity. This would be simpler, as it's only a matter of Company HQ units and Special formations that would be affected.

In a related question, should the Sisters retain use of Rhinos? I'd say yes, as even though they are not quite Marines, they are a armored fighting force.


Hi!

I agree on both counts Magnus. Sisters should retain rhinos (female space marines) and the frateris should have chimeras.

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 Post subject: Re: Army List: Other
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:37 pm 
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I have some modelling projects that I am working on and one of them is to have the Emperor and and his Custodes Guard in epic scale.

As I begin to ponder some stats and such I wanted to ask what thoughts people have about the rules such a force should have.

I was thinking of a special formation or more likely a unique formation where any Imperial or Space marine army can bring that one unique formation to the table.

The more common one would just be Custodes guard as they are sometimes dispatched through the galaxy in the Emperor's business. They would be rare, sort of like the grey knights.

As far as mechanics and stats. Since they are linked to the Emperor (maybe even using his geneseed) how powerful should they be?

Probably as good as terminators in close combat. How about ranged weapons?

Any thoughts appreciated. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Army List: Other
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:20 pm 
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As a practising and committed fluffophobe I can offer very little help with this project.

I would only suggest that they do benefit from the swanky Inquisitor fixed 4+ armour.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:31 am 
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Net Epic Rules for Adeptus Custodes

The martial capabilities of the Adeptus Custodes remain largely unknown at the present time. What is known is that they possess skill beyond even a "normal" member of the Adeptus Astartes. It has been said that the Adeptus Custodes are to a Space Marine what a Space Marine is to a member of the Imperial Guard.

I will use this bit of background as my guiding principal in their development. ;)

General Rules for the custodes

All custodes have the following abilities

Elite
Fearless
Fixed Armored save (varies)
Inspirational
Psy save (varies)
Quickdraw

All custodes are special formations. Some are unique special formations (will be noted in description).

Lentum Foot Knight
They represent a lower tier of custodes. Some speculate they may be apprentice Custodes guard. But the Custodes keep such things to themselves. They are armed with melee weapons and shields and are determined shock troops.

Move 10cm
Armor save 5+ fixed
Psy save 5+
CAF +5
Weapons: Power weapon (sword, etc) and Lentum Shield, no ranged weapons
Special power: Shield of the Emperor. Any time the lentum knights are hit by ranged fire they may force the opponent to re-roll the attack dice (the lentum shield tries to blocks the attack). The second result is final however.

Special formation 4 stands of lentum knights. Cost 300 points. VP 3 Break point 2

Custodian Guard

They represent the iconic presentation of what Imperial citizens imagine what a custodes looks like. They are the most commonly seen custodes by the outsiders. In times of crisis they are armed with a bolter similar to that of the astartes will their command continues to use the traditional (if modified) glaive.

Move 10cm
Armor save 4+ fixed
Psy save 4+
CAF +6
Weapons Bolter
range 50cm
Attack dice 1
To hit 4+
Save modifier -1
Special Ability: Infiltration (as per net epic rules). Custodes are trained in the blood games and are thus trained in infiltration tactics

special formation 4 stands 350 points. VP 4 break point 2

Custodes Command
Veteran custodes whom also obtain the command and HQ abilities (as per net epic rules)

Move 10cm
Armor save 4+ fixed
Psy save 4+
CAF +8
Weapons power Glaive
range 50cm
Attack dice 2
To hit 4+
Save modifier -1
Special Ability: Infiltration (as per net epic rules). Custodes are trained in the blood games and are thus trained in infiltration tactics. Command are masters of infiltration and stealth. They also gain the stealth ability (as per net epic rules).

special formation 4 stands cost 400 points. VP 4 Break point 2

Aquila terminators
Armed with superior armor and technology they put even the 1st company terminator veterans of other astartes chapters to shame.

Move: 10cm
Armor save: 3+ fixed
psy save 3+
CAF+9
Weapons: close combat and modified storm bolter
Range 35cm
Attack dice 3
To hit roll 3+
Save modifier -1
Special Ability: Deep strike. Due to advanced technology the teleport deep strike does NOT scatter.

special formation 4 stands. Cost 450 points. VP 5 Break point 2

Ares Guard
The personal guard of constatine valdor. They are the elite of the custodes.

Move 10cm
Armor save 3+ fixed
Psy save 3+
CAF +8
Weapons power glaive
range 50cm
Attack dice 2
To hit 3+
Save modifier -2
Special Abilitity: Infiltration (as per net epic rules). Custodes are trained in the blood games and are thus trained in infiltration tactics. All Ares guard are masters of Stealth (gain stealth ability). While elite, the gain re-rolls on ALL rolls, second roll is final.

Constantine Valdor
The most trusted friend of the Emperor. First High Lord of terra and consummate protector of the master of mankind!

In addition to standard custodes abilities he obtains, infiltration, stealth Elite with re-rolls on all rolls. HQ and Command.

Move 15cm
Armor save 3+ fixed
Psy save 2+
CAF +12
Weapons Emperor's Vengeance (unique glaive )
range 50cm
Attack dice 3
To hit 2+
Save modifier -2
Special Ability: Emperor's loyal servant. If he is within 25cm of the Emperor no hit on the Emperor shall fall on him. Resolve attacks as if Valdor was hit instead. Deep Strike. Units commanded by Valdor may deep strike without scatter.

Unique special formation (only one of this type of formation may be present during a battle). Cost 650 points. VP7 Break point 3.

The Emperor

The master of mankind. While his physical body is bound to the golden throne, rumors of miraculous appearances in the Imperium's most dire need as whispered in reverence as his spirit takes physical form in protecting his Imperium.

The Emperor possess any all all abilities that can apply to infantry as per the core rule list of abilities.

All the emperor's attacks count as psychic attacks.

Move 20cm
Armor save 2+ fixed
Psy save Immune to psychic attacks
CAF +15
Weapons: Lightbringer (power sword), Wrath of the Emperor (storm bolter)
range 50cm
Attack dice 6
To hit 2+
Save modifier -2
Special Ability:

Anathema. the emperor is the bane of all this chaos. No chaos power, boon or ability functions within 25cm of the Emperor. Existing effects are immediately removed if the Emperor moves within 25cm of it.

Emperor's light: Imperial units within line of sight of the Emperor gain the fearless ability

Emperor's mercy functions as space marine medic ability with 25cm. However the roll for success is 3+ Only applies to infantry.

Unique formation (only one of its kind can be fielded during a battle). Cost 600 VP 6. break point model.

Unique formations

These formation are one of a kind. If one of these formations is used no other unique or special custodes formation can be used.

Emperor and body Guard
This formation consists of the Emperor and constantine valdor with his Ares guard

Cost 1250 VP 13, break point 3+1 (7VP and 6VP)

Legio Custodes

The legion consists of one of all the above:
Emperor
Constantine valdor and Ares guard
1 Aquila terminator squad
1 Custodian guard squad
1 Custodian command
1 Lentum knight squad

Cost 2750 VP 28, break point 11 + 1 + 1(the two separate ones are for the Emperor and constantine, award VP separately for those two).

Simply put these guys are an army onto themselves. I wonder how effective they would be..... ;)

Commentary welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Army List: Other
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:43 am 
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Should add this stuff to the AdMech list! It's gold :D

Seriously though, perhaps if you are doing the Emperor you might want to do a Epic30K list and include all the Primarchs too. I dont think he has a place in NetEpic proper.


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Should add this stuff to the AdMech list! It's gold :D

Seriously though, perhaps if you are doing the Emperor you might want to do a Epic30K list and include all the Primarchs too. I dont think he has a place in NetEpic proper.


Hi!

True, but in the not so distant future I will reveal WHY I did this. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Army List: Other
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:26 pm 
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You great big tease, shame on you! Spill the beans now! I must know! :D

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You great big tease, shame on you! Spill the beans now! I must know! :D


Hi!

If your that curious, just PM me. ;)

But I'm not telling anyone else..... :P

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 Post subject: Re: Army List: Other
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I'll try and be a grown up about it and just wait until you are ready to reveal all! Look forward to the big reveal!

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I'll try and be a grown up about it and just wait until you are ready to reveal all! Look forward to the big reveal!


Hi!

I should have quite a few things by the summer, so its only a handful or months... ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Army List: Other
PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:37 pm 
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Let me guess your expanding the Primarchload to include all 20 complete Legions along with Primarchs?

On a more serious note I'd recommend basing the Sisters list more on Onslaught than GW due to the fact Onslaught games seems more interested in supporting them.

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Let me guess your expanding the Primarchload to include all 20 complete Legions along with Primarchs?

On a more serious note I'd recommend basing the Sisters list more on Onslaught than GW due to the fact Onslaught games seems more interested in supporting them.


Hi!

Onslaught has its own place in the queue, its just further down due to the size of what's cooking.

The tyranid expansion alone will keep deacon pretty busy.... ;)

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