Hi Craig,

I'm not certain at this stage whether I'd want to impose the -1 for firing at more than half range but it's something I'd like to find out how people felt about. That particular aspect I may just see what happens on other threads and go with the flow. I feel slightly against it for Evolution as One of the main functions of the system is to speed play up and I think this would only slow it down.

I'm glad you haven't found the Fog of War rule to be a problem. Truth be told, I haven't either (to date) but can see why Primarch dislikes the idea of it. It's a game mechanic that while it seems to work ok has a weak explanation behind it. Really it's only there because Net Epic was never intended to be a proper activations game as we play it. Essentially what I've done with the alternative is try to achieve the same goal with putting a more credible fluff explanation behind having it.

-2 on rolls to hit is reasonably punishing and hopefully will largely dissuade players from engaging in a shooting match from their respective deployment zones. You're right that it may be beneficial in stopping players hiding their units behind Fog of War for tactical advantage so it could be a win-win by modifying it this way. It could be that a -3 to hit modifier may be even more appropriate, especially when you factor in that units on FF get a +1 on their to hit roll.

As for barrages, my intent would be that you'd calculate your roll to hit based on BPs and then modify that by -2. For example, 6BPs = 4+ to hit, modified by -2 would mean rolls of 6 would be needed to score a hit. This is the same as how FF modifiers currently work for barrages under Evolution.

The Warp Hunters is a nice example and I'm sure there may be a few similar units where I'd have to think about how these would be affected by the rules. On the face of it your extra scatter suggestion seems a good one!

Fog of War is definitely simplest, so if you are happy with that I'm more than satisfied to keep playing that way!

That actually seems like a viable tactic spawned from the current system (and one in real life), not really an abuse. Unless it's the only tactic spawned from the current system.



See, that I understand completely. I can foresee (most} Titan weapon being primarily anti-titan and anti-WE, and secondary targets are harder to target and hit with them. Of course, if one brings a titan to wipe out enemy tanks and infantry, then he's going to suffer against opposing titans.



Yeah, the good old days. Though I remember abusing Magnus the Red's eye beam thing at times (if I remember correctly).

No problem Splash! Don't waste your paper printing the contents pages, I need to get them sorted out. They were right for Gold but are nonsense for Evolution.

Look forward to any observations you have! Cheers!

You may not “pass” on activating a unit until all of your units have been activated, or you choose to leave the rest of your units where they are. In other words, you cannot pass and not move a detachment, then later choose to move after your opponent reveals his plans. However, once you pass you may still activate units to Snap Fire. Such units will have to be given First Fire orders when you activate to Snap Fire.

Interesting and I like some of the flow changes!

I found this clunky and it took me a few read overs to understand:



So as I read this, you cannot "pass" and choose not to activate a unit unless you have no units left to activate. If you give a unit any orders other than "First Fire", the unit must perform the order at the time of activation. However, a unit given "First Fire" orders can withhold immediate action and 'Snap Fire' within that same turn.

Is that correct?

Also, any thoughts on a tweak of the "Outnumber rule" (For either NE:P or NE:E)?

I have always thought a maximum based on unit type or a restriction of "Half of the long edge of the base" otherwise a single 20mm x 40mm infantry base could be overwhelmed 10-1 by 20 x 40mm bases on end and that just seems cheesy. I also think that "half the longest edge" could lead to cheese as well, so maybe limit based on unit type is ideal.

Off the cuff Examples (Probably wayyyyy oversimplified)

Infantry, max 4:1
Vehicles, max 6:1
SHT, max 8:1
Titan, max 10:1

You can put units on FF orders but choose to withhold fire. This counts as an activation even though you are not firing at that particular moment. You can use this withheld fire at any point later in the turn if an enemy unit moves across you LOS and is in range for the attack. This Snap Fire interrupts the opponent's activation and you would resolve your attack. Note that the Snap Fire doesn't count as another activation; you used the activation for this unit earlier in the turn when you applied FF orders. Assuming the enemy unit survived your Snap Fire, your opponent would complete his activation. Play would then revert back to you if you still had activations remaining...