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IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK

 Post subject: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:22 am 
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does anyone created Netepic stats for those pretty nice models?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:54 pm 
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I do not remember if Duz.Holger (or a closed pseudo) made some profiles for his DKOK list.

Else, something close to standard SHT:


move: 10cm
save: 2+
CAF: +5
side sponsos: PD(2) or PD(4)
front dual guns: 1x 50cm/1/5+/-2 or 2x50cm/1/5+/-1

for turrets:
- twice vanquisher cannons (should the most expensive variant)
- dual stubbers: 2*50cm/4+/-1 (or -2) (or just find the malcador profile and double the turret weapon)
- dual heavy bolters: 25cm/8/5+/0 ?

For the cost, less expensive than SHT, more expensive than malcadors. I don't have the time to check where we place the malcador profiles :|


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:54 pm 
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Is it in the optionals thread? If not, it probably should be :)


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:12 am 
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Here is the proposition for Macharius variants I've just posted on Epic french board:

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Macharius Company:
Contents: 3x Macharius heavy tanks
Cost: 450 | Moral:3 | VP:5
Move: 10cm | Save: 2+ | Caf: +6 | Notes: Superheavy, PD(4)
Weapons:
- Name: Heavy Stubbers | Range: 75cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 4+ | TSM: -2 | Notes:Turret
- Name: Stubbers | Range: 50cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM -1
- Name: Heavy Bolters | Range: 25cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM: 0


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Macharius Vanquisher Company:
Contents: 3x Macharius Vanquisher heavy tanks)
Cost: 500 | Moral:3 | VP:5
Move: 10cm | Save: 2+ | Caf: +6 | Notes: Superheavy, PD(4)
Weapons:
- Name: Vanquisher | Range: 100cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM: -2 | Notes:Turret, Penetrating(+1)
- Name: Stubbers | Range: 50cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM -1
- Name: Heavy Bolters | Range: 25cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM: 0



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Macharius Vulcan Company:
Contents: 3x Macharius Vulcan heavy tank
Cost: 400 | Moral:3 | VP:4
Move: 10cm | Save: 2+ | Caf: +6 | Notes: Superheavy, PD(4)
Weapons:
- Name: Vulcan heavy bolter | Range: 25cm | Attack Dices: 8 | To-Hit Roll: 4+ | TSM: 0 | Notes:Turret
- Name: Stubbers | Range: 50cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM -1
- Name: Heavy Bolters | Range: 25cm | Attack Dices: 2 | To-Hit Roll: 5+ | TSM: 0


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 Post subject: Re: IMPERIAL MACHARIUS HEAVY TANK
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:32 am 
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Sounds nice to me
especially the weapon stats are fine
though the super hevay makes the heavy stubber variant a cheap baneblade
maybe just remove the super heavy from all three variants
and keep the point costs as they are

If they are no super havy tanks there could be a CO. with 10 tanks
1 det.(3 tanks) of each variant+ anyone command macharius tank
for hmm 1300 points?


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:00 am 
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If SHT is removed, they would be the same class than malcadors...And with the size of the minis, being SHT seems logical.

Yes, Macharius could become a cheap Baneblade but it's Caf is worse, less armor, far less PD. Imho, it's the Baneblade that have a problem, not the Macharius. Baneblade should have a front demolisher weapon in its profile but that's another debate ;)


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:06 am 
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If SHT is removed, they would be the same class than malcadors...And with the size of the minis, being SHT seems logical.

I looked through the FW range and you are right
the Macharius is more a SH tank

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Yes, Macharius could become a cheap Baneblade but it's Caf is worse, less armor, far less PD. Imho, it's the Baneblade that have a problem, not the Macharius. Baneblade should have a front demolisher weapon in its profile but that's another debate

Some good points here
yes the baneblade is a bit underpowered ;D


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:28 am 
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I've never taken Baneblades, if I want to dig in and hold an objective I use Stormhammers, if I want to take out titans or super heavy tanks then its all about the Shadow Sword.

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:03 pm 
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Baneblades battlecannon can be usefull when all your standard AA is broken/destroyed but the tank suffers its polyvalence: not good in a particular compartment.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:50 pm 
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I like Baneblades, the models
but netepic is right compared to all other Sh tanks they are underpowered


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If SHT is removed, they would be the same class than malcadors...And with the size of the minis, being SHT seems logical.

Yes, Macharius could become a cheap Baneblade but it's Caf is worse, less armor, far less PD. Imho, it's the Baneblade that have a problem, not the Macharius. Baneblade should have a front demolisher weapon in its profile but that's another debate ;)

Replace one Battlecannon with a 75cm Demolisher cannon hitting at 4+ and having a TSM -3 ignoring Cover
there you have your usefull Baneblade ;D






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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:49 am 
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Re: Baneblade, Demolisher variant

The Points Formula values for that are:

Company: 344
Support: 180

Standard Baneblade is:

Company: 330
Support: 173

Thus their values are vary similar, though not quite identical. For NetEpic Gold or 2nd edition values, they would probably be the same.

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