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Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
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Author:  Norto [ Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
Hello all,

I'm putting up Death Watch to try and get 6 games in with this version. I feel its ready for approval. 12 games from other groups should tell if its not.

If you want to help out but need ideas for miniatures there is a great range at Vanguard Miniatures.
Corvus Black Star
Other Vehicles
Infantry

Summary of Changes
*Corvus black star upgrade pricing rework
*Inquisitorial storm troopers to 250 and 0-1 option (never got taken at 300)

Previous Development Thread




Up to date Army Builder Link

Version 1.4b
Tiny edit,
Vulnerable Dreadnoughts to 75 points to keep consistency with Space Wolves.
Assault bikes now names Veteran Bikes.
Strategy rating and initiative rating wording to be more clearer.
Slight alter to the fluff.

Death Watch 1.4b
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Death Watch Version 1.4/1.4b (Going for Approval)

Norto and Mordoten & Co
Death Watch vs EpicUK Necrons 3K By Mordoten
Death Watch vs EpicUK Adepta Sororitas By Norto
Death Watch vs Orks War Horde By Norto
Death Watch vs UK Skitarii By Norto
Death Watch vs Steel Legion By Mordoten
Death Watch vs Speed Freaks By Mordoten

"The RoboPFIEE&Britt Show"
Death Watch vs Minervan Tank Legion By PFE200
Death Watch Vs Legio Gryphonicus By PFE200
Death Watch vs Red Corsairs By PFE200
Death Watch vs Knight World By PFE200
Death Watch vs Emperor’s Children By PFE200
Death Watch vs Tyranids By PFE200
Author:  Kalrath [ Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
I've not been very active, but still very much interested in this army.

Why no Bikes for the Vets or Valkyries for the Storm Troopers?
Author:  Norto [ Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
Hey Kalrath,

Bikes for the vets? I could easily change the name of the current assault bikes to Veteran Bikes, they are better then standard bikes but you get less for your buck.

Could also easily add the Valkyrie upgrade to the storm troopers. I haven't really seen them taken all that often as it is.
Author:  Doomkitten [ Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
Just a thought, perhaps change "All Death Watch formations have an initiative rating of 1+" to "All Death Watch detachments have an initiative rating of 1+". Just for clarity?
Author:  Norto [ Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
Hey Doomkitten,

Yeah I'm not really clear there. I should fix that up. Everything is 1+ except the storm troopers, inquisitorial warbands, thunderbolts and Marauder Bombers which are 2+. I'll fix that up soon. Thanks for the spot.
Author:  Doomkitten [ Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
Thought I should just add that I like the list. Aside from being a good use for the remnants from IG and Marine armies, it's just a fun, different take on things. I'm hoping to try it.
Author:  jimmyzimms [ Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
Norto wrote:
Could also easily add the Valkyrie upgrade to the storm troopers. I haven't really seen them taken all that often as it is.

Naa keep this list focused on the Deathwtach marines. You want a bunch of airborn scions then craft up an Ordo Xenos list instead.
Author:  Doomkitten [ Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
jimmyzimms wrote:
Norto wrote:
Could also easily add the Valkyrie upgrade to the storm troopers. I haven't really seen them taken all that often as it is.

Naa keep this list focused on the Deathwtach marines. You want a bunch of airborn scions then craft up an Ordo Xenos list instead.


This. Tight themes make happy lists.
Author:  Kalrath [ Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
Duh!! I misread the bikes! My eyes read Attack bike instead Assault Bike....

As for the Storm Troopers, it just seems weird the're limited to the ground when everything else has an aerial option. It also doesn't really fits the theme of rapid insertion teams associated with Deathwatch.

Just not seeing the point of them in this list. If it's Deathwatch, keep it Deathwatch only, If it's a bit more than that (which is fine) then the options should make sense. Not that they don't, I'm just not seeing it. What's the reason for them being in the list at all? fluff wise that is
Author:  mordoten [ Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
Inquisitiobal scouting teams that call in the Deathwatch when Xenos are sighted?
Author:  fruitbat [ Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
mordoten wrote:
Inquisitiobal scouting teams that call in the Deathwatch when Xenos are sighted?

Exactly this!
I my tests so far, it's been the Inq teams trying to weather the storm until the DW arrive, feels very fluffy.
Author:  Norto [ Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
That's got it spot on for me. Few inquisitorial troops on the ground before the deathwatch are called in.

I'm keen for other ordos lists later that focus on an inquisitor lords and supports coming either sisters, deathwatch or grey knights.

I'm going do a couple of updates to the list from things you guys have pointed out, the wording of the initiative ratings and change the assault bike to veteran bikes. I can see attack and assault bikes getting mixed up.

Also I made a mistake on vulnerable dreads. They should be 75 points each to keep it inline with the space wolves.

If theres anything else before I alter it let me know.


Thanks
Norto
Author:  fruitbat [ Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
It's a small thing Norto, but in the fluff you've got "Deathwatch or one of their successor chapters"
I know this text has been lifted from another SM list, but they don't have any successor chapters as they are built from members of the other chapters.

Really minor quibble, but probably worth fixing before the list goes final.
Author:  Doomkitten [ Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
Norto wrote:
Also I made a mistake on vulnerable dreads.


Well, maybe you did make this mistake...
;)
Author:  chivalrynsorcery [ Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ordo Xenos - Death Watch 2018 (Final Version Hopefully)
As the new AC for Inquisition, please review Death Watch -- updates for playtesting topic in this section.

I made some changes i feel make the Death Watch unique, such as larger formations, self planetfall and mandatory Inquisition troops. Please test out these changes and make any comments you feel necessary. Battle reports are welcome/needed. I will be playing today and using the new changes and hope to have the Battle report up soon after the game.
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