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Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.1 (Developmental)

 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.0 (Experimenta
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:57 am 
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Thanks for spotting the faults! Yeah, Cathedral is maybe not worth 650. 550 might se it get some use...

Any thoughts on changing cathedrals to upgrades for +125points?

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.0 (Experimenta
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:22 pm 
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So lets discuss Emperors Chapels some more.

As earlier stated I'm thinking about changing theese units into a transport upgrade for some formations (Mission, Retributions, Repetance and Celestians). This would require the transport capacity to be expanded to 8 from the current 4 units. The Upgrade would be costed 125 points. The chapel is a upgunned Gorgon in my eyes so i think that is a fair cost considering the NetEA Gorgons are costed at 100p each. Anyone have any opinions on: A) having single chapels as upgrades for formations? and B) costing them at 125 points?

I would also like to keep the chapels in the WE/Navy section as a bigger unit. But right now they're costed at 400 for 2. But if I add single chapels as upgrades at 125p this formation needs to change a little.

Either we can do 2 chapels at 300 points (2x125+50 points for the activation). My worry here is that we might give acces to way to many SH-units in the list.

The other option would be to make the formation 3 units strong for 425 points (3x125+50 points for the cativation). I know this gives the list access to 9BP, Ignore Cover fire but remember that this is only within 30cm. So no sitting on the Blitz shooting 9BP indirect all over the board or similar.
When we did the NDC project we tried Baneblade Companies at 425p which i felt where okay for their performance. This is quite a similar formation but with even less AT-firepower AND range. As i said earlier, i think Chapels are closer to an upgunned Gorgon than a Baneblade.
My questions here are: A) Should we keep them in the WE/Navy section in larger units? and B) What feels better for the list; 2 at 300 or 3 at 425?

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.0 (Experimenta
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The price of the formations has gone up, but the Palantine has not been included into the formation.
Is this suppose to happen?

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.0 (Experimenta
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Yes.

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mordoten wrote:
So lets discuss Emperors Chapels some more.


A while ago I raised the suggestion of making them Gorgon-likes and the idea was shot down with the argument of keeping the list away from becoming a super-heavy assault list. If you're going to go with them being a transport option (which is still my preference) then you should probably consider some way of limiting their use other than just points and certainly not including them as independent formations on top of their assault transport role. Take the points out of the WE allotment, or reduce the allowance to 1/4 to compensate for their inclusion outside of the WE allowance. Something is definitely needed to keep it from permitting a WE-storm.

Focus on one or the other, a good (but limited) transport, or a solid short-range super heavy assault vehicle accompaniment (200 point WE, EA-FF type monster). Having them as both is just too much super heavy fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.0 (Experimenta
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Thanks for your reply!
Yeah, I'm leaning more to using it as a transport type so it blends well with the rest of the army. Realisticly i think we'll se a maximum of one per 3K army for a blitz guarding BTS since high activations is pretty important for this list. Not to worried of theese transports being spammed at 3K games because of this.

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.0 (Experimenta
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no problems using chapels as transport option, just make their move 20cm. I think 2 at 300 allows you maximize activations.
Looking forward to the list. Hope to include close to 30 Penitent Engines in my new list.

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.0 (Experimenta
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They will be 20cm for sure.

Yeah, i think we're ready ro release verdion 2.1 pretty soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.0 (Experimenta
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Version 2.1 uploaded.
Choir cost decresead to 225 from 250.
Coven lost Priest and Superior upgrade.
Emperors Chapels movement increased to 20cm from 15cm.
Emperors Chapels Transport Capacity increased from 4 to 8.
Emperors Chapels added as upgrade to Missions, Retributors and Repentance for 125.
New list structure with Core, Support and Axiliary formations (1:2:2)
Retributor weapons change to Heavy Bolter & Heavy Flamer from current 2xHeavy Bolters.
Added missing upgrades.
Cathedral of Purification priced decreased to 550 from 650.

Lets playtest the sheisse out of this! :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.1 (Development
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:35 pm 
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i will test away. So you took away rhino transport and repressor transports for the Repentia sisters. was that a mistake or a definite change.

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.1 (Development
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No, thats a mistake for sure! Will amend it after the weekend (travelling now).

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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.1 (Development
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Also, is it right that the repentance formation can't take the engines upgrade?
(Either way excited to get testing this list)


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 Post subject: Re: Orders Militant - Adepta Sororitas 2018 2.1 (Development
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No, thats also i mistake. I probably erased both options that you guys mentioned when i entered the Chapel upgrade into the repentace formation in the list.

All changes are stated in the changelog. Anything thats different outside of that log is a mistake when editing.

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