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 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: Hawk Lords Chapter List

 Post subject: Re: Hawk Lords Chapter List
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:26 am 

Replies: 31
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Is FFw like FxF? Or something else? Epic: Battle Tactics? Whats this? Similar to Epic: Total War? Because I was thinking on that the other night and was trying to gather all of Chroma's work to study over. Info? Link? I'm all for sweeping change for the better. I still plan on gutting Slow Fire fro...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:40 pm 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


Twin Lascannon 45cm AT4/AA4 FxF Twin Heavy Bolter 30cm AP4/AA5 FxF I'm leaning towards this. I know someone will yell at me but maybe enough won't? ;D We want or need this to be AA focused for the DA for we lack that. We don't want it to be a ground sniper but we also lack AT or MW with no bombers ...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:34 pm 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


Please adopt the existing Assault Terminator stats from other lists! Reinventing the wheel isn't necessary or appropriate. I've been using Assault Terminators in the Black Templars list (which I aim to get approved in the coming months) and find them to be a good choice with CC2+ +1MW and an invuln...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:28 pm 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


AoC, you can't ask to be shown examples of different stats as precedent and then just ignore them. You're cherry picking one of three different stats for it and quoting it as the only example. I think you misunderstand what I mean as explames. The points you make with Wingtip Lascannon and others w...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:04 pm 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


I liked it better with just Hunters Amen! I don't even know of a good proxy that would look nephilim-like on the table :( Indeed Good Sir, oh well. On the topic of Assault Terminators Great to hear! I've seen people calling for a price drop and others call for a increase. Either way there hasn't be...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: Hawk Lords Chapter List

 Post subject: Re: Hawk Lords Chapter List
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:58 pm 

Replies: 31
Views: 10624


1) I dislike the One Shot idea on AC, for reasons stated before they fly away and come back. Just one Rockety Thingy with NO One Shot? 2) The continuation of more SM flyers and that toss up of making them skimmers or AC has gotten only worse. There is good rational behind alot of it but as more SM ...

 Forum: EpiComms NetEA Rules Amendments   Topic: E:A Power creep in air units and formations

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:13 am 

Replies: 89
Views: 24560


I certainly agree that ERC should be driving this, so I share your frustrations and your concerns whether there will be an 'official' revamp. I also share your pain about the Nephilim, especially since you apparently did not want it in the first place. It seems that virtually every list designer ge...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:02 am 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


Thinking aloud....about adjustments to Ironwing Predator Executioner AV 30cm 4+ 6+ 4+ Plasma Destroyer 60cm MW4+ Heavy Bolter 30cm 2x AP5+ Ironwing Core 250 4 Predators (Annihilator or Destructor) Upgrades: Master Hunter Ironwing Support (add up 2 Predator A or D) Executioner (Upgrade any number of...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:50 pm 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


I attempted that but a Twin Lascannon 45cm AT4/AA4 gave people baby cows. Maybe Twin Lascannon 45cm AT4/AA4 FxF Heavy Bolters 30cm AP4/AA5 FxF Missiles 30cm ATX/AA6 FxF OR Twin Lascannon 45cm AT4/AA4 FxF Heavy Bolters 30cm AP4/AA5 FxF OR Twin Lascannon 45cm AT4/AA4 FxF Missiles 30cm AT4/AA6 FxF OR ...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:22 pm 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


AFAIK the only Imperial plane in an approved and developmental list that has Twin Las cannons are all bombers. Even the lightning has a customized lascannon weapon: Wingtip Lascannons 30cm AT5+/AA5+, FxF The plane could easily do something along those lines as well. It doesn't have to be the same w...

 Forum: EpiComms NetEA Rules Amendments   Topic: E:A Power creep in air units and formations

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:15 pm 

Replies: 89
Views: 24560


We all want to reflect the relevant weaponry in an acceptable way, but in order to stop power-creep ruining the game, we have to call a halt somewhere - and AP4+ / AT4+ is it (together with the other parameters discussed above). I disagree with this statement. Had epic shipped without any ground un...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:58 pm 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


Stats look okay, except...aren't they just Super Thunderbolts? Better at ground attack both for AP and AT, about equal AA (one less to hit on one weapon, but 30cm range on both), better save. It pays the points, but still. One thing to look into is swapping the heavy bolters with storm bolters, lik...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:45 pm 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


the planes are still too powerful, if I'd taken 4 lots of two in my test game, the result would have been the same, except better as in T3 I'd be placing extra blast markers which would have broken the chaos preds.... 30cm range on all their weapons is horrible as they can hang back and avoid flak ...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:57 am 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


Nephilim Jet Fighter AC Fighter 5+ N/A N/A Avenger Bolter 30cm 2x AP3/AT5 FxF Twin Heavy Bolters 30cm AP4/AA5 FxF Blacksword Missiles 30cm AT5/AA6 FxF Formation: 2 Nephilim Jet Fighters Cost: 250 After reading comments and the Air Discussion http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewtopic.php?f=69...

 Forum: NetEA Adeptus Astartes   Topic: [Fanlist] Dark Angels 3.X (deprecated)

 Post subject: Re: [NetEA] Dark Angels 3.0
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:42 am 

Replies: 150
Views: 44559


I had a 3k battle with the Dark Angels 3.0 list vs an air assault Biel-Tan list. Thoughts Despite the final score this felt like a very close game. The only marines left unbroken at the end were 2 bikes, 1 land speeder and 6 terminators. If a few crucial events had gone differently, such as the ter...
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