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 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: [Xeno-Biostatistics] New Brood on the Block - HG, TG & H

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:06 pm 

Replies: 35
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The Hive Guard background also indicates that if the enemy is heavily mechanised the Hive Guard are driven forward to the front lines as a counter. They are also noted to be very quick to spawn (with a long slow walk from the nearest capillary tower). LV on Tyrant guard was an elegant rule to captur...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: [Xeno-Biostatistics] Little WEs - Ts, Ms, Ts and Hs

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:41 pm 

Replies: 92
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Trygon Prime I think can go the character upgrade route using a generic bolt on synapse node (like Leviathan uses) Another option for the Mawloc is first strike. 25cm to 15cm is a bit of a steep drop, maybe 20cm. I'd be careful with the Harridan, depending on where you see it. Is it going to compete...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: [Xeno-Biostatistics] Expendable Brood - Ts, Hs, Gs and Rs

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:02 pm 

Replies: 28
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I agree. For every single Ravener you get 5 Hormagaunts and 5 Termagants so they should be uncommon. Raveners are something like super-Gaunts possessing the best abilities of both types. So a Infantry unit with the FF of Termagants and CC of Hormagaunts and better armour. Surely they should cost so...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: [Xeno-Biostatistics] Expendable Brood - Ts, Hs, Gs and Rs

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:52 pm 

Replies: 28
Views: 4567


I've always found it slightly odd that Raveners are in the group of 'common' creatures. They're nowhere near as numerous as gaunts so why are they there? Surely it would be better to make them super hormagaunts and push them out into the rarer units rather than trying to limit their stats to fit in ...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: [Xeno-Biostatistics] Big Brood - Cs, Bs, Zs and their like

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:20 pm 

Replies: 43
Views: 5186


I knocked up the Venomthrope in Jormungandr as inf, 15cm move, 5+ sv, 2xCC4+ first strike attacks and spawnable. Essentially something along the lines of a smaller version of the Malanthrope.

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: [Xeno-Biostatistics] Independent Vanguard - Ls, GSs and BL

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:04 pm 

Replies: 161
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I know you're going for something of a clean slate but there was considerable concensus regarding certain stats on certain units. For Genestealers 9.2.1, Leviathan, Jormungandr, Tarrasque and EpicUK all used the inf, 20cm, 6+ sv, 2xCC4+ first strike, infiltrator and scout stats (EpicUK added Synapse...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: [Xeno-Biostatistics] The Plan/What to Stat

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:16 pm 

Replies: 49
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My point is that it's a zoanthrope. Pick a stat either new or old (most likely new as old is not the norm anymore and also, what does it matter if the old version is now a synapse?) it doesn't have to be both and it'll be a heck of a lot easier to remember stuff between lists. People just want to u...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: [Xeno-Biostatistics] The Plan/What to Stat

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:14 pm 

Replies: 49
Views: 6174


Get the special rules and stats right - then we can make whatever lists strikes our fancy after that, and still get a use out of all the models. A list doesn't have to, and shouldn't, use all existing models. It can be defined just as much by what it lacks as by what it has. Look at the Eldar lists...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: Tyranid List Stat Comparision for a unified unit list

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:13 pm 

Replies: 68
Views: 10913


Quite simply we need an AC and everyone who has built a list has to at a minimum agree to follow the AC's lead and abide by their decisions. If they ask for lists to be scrapped then they get scrapped, if they just want an update so we have multiple variants from the start (all with the same stats a...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: Tyranid List Stat Comparision for a unified unit list

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:00 pm 

Replies: 68
Views: 10913


Yes the ideal solution is an AC who will actually follow through and say this is the "one true list" (it would certainly help though if they also specced out a complete unit list, even if their list doesn't use them, to keep any variants in check from the start). No one has held the positi...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: Tyranid List Stat Comparision for a unified unit list

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:26 pm 

Replies: 68
Views: 10913


Looks good, nice work :) You're right that there doesn't seem to be much difference between the variants now. (Also there are a few entries missing the red colouring on the second page - heirophant/heridule :) ) Updated, there were a few more as well (just the highlighting missing). Fundamentally i...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: Tyranid List Stat Comparision for a unified unit list

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:57 pm 

Replies: 68
Views: 10913


I've added a partially unified list to the first post. It discounts the EpicUK list as it is too divergent from the lists here for a number of creatures. Any disagreements between the remaining lists are highlighted in red on a single statline per creature. Hopefully it will focus the mind and show ...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: Tyranid List Stat Comparision for a unified unit list

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:50 pm 

Replies: 68
Views: 10913


Off the top of my head, Lictors, Biovores and Zoanthropes and their INF/LV status, Lictor CC and Warrior stats (super new guys vs old plain guys) were the main ones I think. I assume the issue relates to the old models and rules where those creatures where bought and used as individuals. In this ca...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: Tyranid List Stat Comparision for a unified unit list

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:33 pm 

Replies: 68
Views: 10913


I just can't see what the problem is. There just aren't enough units with sufficient differences in the raft of lists to cause a complete stop unless someone absolutely refuses to compromise. It can't be just quibbling over whether a unit has CC4+ or CC3+. In the aborted attempt to unify under Jaldo...

 Forum: NetEA Tyranids   Topic: Tyranid List Stat Comparision for a unified unit list

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:58 pm 

Replies: 68
Views: 10913


I guess Hive Fleet Tarrasque does not make a showing? In any event, I feel you are comparing apples with oranges. As an example, a modern Carnifex is not the carnifex of the older school lists. I still feel that there should be two variants and the comparrisons should be split to their respective e...
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