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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: new england elysians |
| Cosmic Serpent |
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:00 am
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| Take the time to do what's needed. Elysian's are indeed tough, and Deb did an excellent job on many fronts. It'll take some time to get Elysian's to a good place, nothing should be rushed. |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: How Should Guard Mortars Work? |
| Cosmic Serpent |
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:46 am
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Replies: 19
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| You bring up a good point, I guess I associate "direct fire" more with trajectory. Howitzers and large artillery can shoot at a horizontal disposal...mortars....well I've never seen one do that! |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: new england elysians |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:20 pm
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| Yes, it is no substitute for actual game play - but they are good to laser focus on exact scenarios for testing purposes. They do allow you to understand exactly what you are describing...that being when you say OK, lets model a landing, and then flip the table to play out an opponents reaction, you... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: How Should Guard Mortars Work? |
| Cosmic Serpent |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:58 pm
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| Just for sake of clarity in the discussion, 2.2.1.0 states: Indirect Fire Some weapons that can fire barrages are noted as having the indirect fire ability. Units armed with indirect fire weapons are allowed to fire indirectly if their formation takes a sustained fire action. Units belonging to a fo... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: new england elysians |
| Cosmic Serpent |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:21 am
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| Dave, I was re-reading this, and I think what you are proposing and what I was proposing with a modified planetfall, reach the exact same result (they play exactly the same really). The only difference is you are creating a new unit (more palatable) vs me creating a new rule (which was a modified ol... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: How Should Guard Mortars Work? |
| Cosmic Serpent |
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:17 am
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| Are you saying one mortar should be 30 cm, AP5+ (that's basically how it's written, a stand has two mortars on it for 2 AP5+ attacks). I think the last option is just too powerful, and the second one puts a stand on par with a Basilisk (minus the range of course). These weapons are in two totally di... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: new england elysians |
| Cosmic Serpent |
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:25 am
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| I'm not particularly married to any one of the options personally, I think they all have their own challenges. Self planetfall can be rough though...you can end up with a very piecemeal force landing which promptly gets cut to bits. Elysian's need mass (no matter the method chosen) to be able to (ho... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: new england elysians |
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:02 am
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| Teleport was what we ended up with back in the 2006 list. It seemed to work the best back then, and I would argue it still works well. In general, I think people don't like it as it allows you to exactly target a spot, for pretty much each formation in your army, and deploy it there, whenever you wa... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: How Should Guard Mortars Work? |
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:47 am
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| There are at least a few experimental/development lists out there where Imperial Guard mortar teams are being represented (Elysian's and Catachans are at least two). Modeling mortars is very different across lists currently. Here are but a few of the recent versions.... 2 x Mortars, 30cm AP5+ - Indi... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: new england elysians |
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:33 pm
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| I think Planetfall with a free unit (not a spaceship) that activates for the combined drop is probably the best route to go myself mechanically. Represents the assault force coming in onto the battlefield and prevents individual units getting shot to shit as they individually activate. This was exa... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: new england elysians |
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:19 am
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| I've been going through the v3 and v4 threads all day to see where we are with this list. I really think Deb did some good work, especially when reviewing all the threads again today and taking a lot of notes. I want to work up my version of the v5 list, taking what I think v4 got right, all the not... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: Elysian Drop Troop Army List V4.0 development |
| Cosmic Serpent |
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:55 am
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Replies: 174
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| I'm willing to take the lead on the next iteration of the list, v5.0. Let me digest about 30 pages of stuff between the 3.0 and 4.0 thread over the weekend, and summarize where I think we are. |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: Elysian Drop Troop Army List V4.0 development |
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:38 pm
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Replies: 174
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| Lots of things to unpack here….might be a long post (warning, contains a lot of personal thoughts that you may agree or disagree with). McJakub - I agree with your last comment, 100%. On sense of direction - this was materially changed between v3 and v4. With v2 and v3, the direction was always to g... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: Elysian Drop Troop Army List V4.0 development |
| Cosmic Serpent |
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:35 am
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| My two cents (stated prior), I don't think the Grey Ghosts are needed. We didn't have an issue with artillery in previous lists due to the number of Valkyries (which also came with risk/short range). BUT, I also don't think the Grey Ghosts break anything substantially. I'm just not a fan as I like t... |
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Forum: NetEA Imperial Guard Topic: Elysian Drop Troop Army List V4.0 development |
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:22 pm
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| This stuff will always be a WIP, I mean it has been for 15+ years I've been messing with it (although its very on and off for me, hopefully Epic is going to see a resurgence in players with all the 3D modeling happening these days in 6mm). Speaking of just that...here's what Chris is working on: htt... |
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